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For a couple of people who work in tech, Ed<\/a> and I argue over grammar and usage a lot. We’re currently working on an upcoming post for the Widgets Blog<\/a>, and got into it over the English use of the French word “naitre,” as in “nee.” I originally used it in the French masculine (“ne”), which Ed then changed to the feminine (“nee”). At which point, the following IM conversation ensued:<\/p>\n

Me: u made konfab feminine?
Ed Voas: i guess i did.
Me: ok
Ed Voas: but i suppose it doesn’t need to be
Ed Voas: just so used to seeing it that way
Me: conformist
Ed Voas: in fact, i think in its english use, it’s always nee
Me: no
Ed Voas: yes
Me: u and arlo decide if u want it to be an homme or femme
Ed Voas: hey, we don’t speak french here, and according to even dictionary.com, nee can simply mean “formerly known as” and there is no entry for ne.
Me: oh, and dictionary.com is such an authority
Me: i heard it just replaced the OED as the scrabble bible
Ed Voas: well, the cite is from AHD, so suck it
Me: im going to blog this and have a poll
Ed Voas: ok. good luck with that.
Ed Voas: and the next time you use “begs the question” wrong, we’ll see if anyone cares
Ed Voas: or “moot”
Me: i use moot correctly
Me: we established that
Ed Voas: point being, you suck
Ed Voas: i should be a debater
Ed Voas: and in conclusion, neener.
Me: oh thats totally going in my post!
Ed Voas: the 6 of us will appreciate that <\/div>\n

I think Ed is technically right in that English has totally bastardized the correct usage of the French original. But, that’s not a reason to give in. I’m standing on principle that a foreign word should retain it’s usage rules when appropriated in another language — even if those rules are not normally applicable in the new language (e.g. the gender of an object).<\/p>\n

Nerdy enough for ya? Weigh in below to help us decide the battle of the grammar-inclined Widgeteers.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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